(10)  Thomas Copinger

He is the immediate ancestor of the Coppingers of Macroom and Carhue, and also of Leemount and Sandy Hill.  His father, the Alderman, devised to him "the Castle, Town, and Lands of Downyne and Cahirrowe which he had in mortgage of several sums of money, in as large and ample manner as the same was past and perfected to him the said Thomas formerly."  The fact was that the Alderman advanced money to several parties and took the securities in the names of his several sons.  Thus we find that by a deed dated 18th July, 1636, the estate of Carhue, in the barony of Muskerry, Co. Cork, was conveyed by Callaghane McDonoghe McCarthy, one of the old chieftains of Muskerry, to Thomas during the lifetime of his father, who by his will left the same estate to him. 

The following is the deed of conveyance:-

Conveyance to Thomas Copinger of Carhue by way of mortgage, 1636.

To all Christian people to whome this deed indented of feoffment shall come Diermod McDonoghy oge Carthy of Downgne, in the Countie of Courke, gent., sone and heire to Donoghie oge Carthie of Downyne aforesaid, gent., deceased, and Callaghane McDonoghie Carthie, of Kylenykabirrowe, in the Countie of Corke aforesaid, gent., send greetinge in our Lord God Everlasting, witnesseth that wee the said Diermod McDonoghie oge Carthy and Callaghane McDonoghie Carthy for and in consideracon of the sume of ffower hundred pounds ster. good and lawfull currant money of and in England receiued and had by vs the said Diermod and Callaghane Carthie, before the ensealeynge and deliuerie hereof, att and by the hands of Thomas Copinger Fitz John of Courke, gent., whereof and wherewith wee the said Diermod and Callaghane do acknowledge and couses ourselves well and truely payed and satisfied and thereof, and of euery parte and parcel of the same, doe hereby acquite, dischardge and exonerate the said Thomas Copinger, his heires, executors, administrators and assignes and euery of them for euer, haue geaven, graunted, bargained, and sold, enfeoffed, assured, and confirmed and by these presents doe giue, graunte, bargaine, and seell, enfeoffe, assure, and confirme vnto the said Thomas Copinger, his heires and assignees for ever, all and singular that and those the twoe plowgheland of and in Kahirrowe, commonly called and knowen by the name or names of Cowlethymorroghowe and Kylebynagle, conteyninge one plowgheland Knocklanepton conteyninge halfe a plowgheland, and Monnyrioghe conteyninge halfe a plowgheland with the Water Myll thereunto belonginge and apteyninge as the said twoe plowghelands are seuerallie knowen by auncient meares and bounds scituated, lyeinge, and beinge within the Barrony of Muskry, in the Countye of Courke aforesaid, with all and singular the townes, villages, and hamletts, messuages, edifices, houses, buyldings, orchards, gardeins, meddowes, enclosures, moores, mountaines, bogges, heathes, watters, wattercourses, ryvers, fishinges, woodes, vnderwoods, copses, furses, turbarries, quarries, mynes, milles, greats of mills, feedings, comons, pastures, rents, seruices, priviledges, royalties, p'cells, members, casualties, profitts, issues, comodities, advantages, appendaces, and all other hereditaments and appurtennes of what nature or quallitie soeuer therevnto belonginge or in any wise apptaighneinge or that wch was at any tyme heretofore reputed, accepted, taken, or knowen as parte p'cell or member thereof, and alsoe the reuercon and reuercons remainder and remainders of all and singular the premises, to have and to hould all and singular the said two plowghelands of and in Kakirrowe aforesd called Cowletymorroghowe, Rylehynaghe, Knockane, Owen, Monugrioghe, and Watter Mill aforesaid, and all other the premises before expressed, with their and euery of their appendances and appurtennances vnto the saied Thomas Copinger, his heires and assignees to the onely and proper vse, behowfe, and comoditie of the said Thomas Copinger, his heires and assignees forever to be holden of the cheife lord of the ffee by the rents and services of right due and accustomed.  Vppon condition notwithstandinge ffolloweinge, that is to say, that whensoever I, the said Diermod McDonnoghy oge Carthy, my heires or assignees, shall and doe well and truely satisfie, content, and actually pay vnto the said Thomas Copinger, his heires or assignes, at the now dwellinge house of John Copinger, of Courke aforsaid, alderman, att or vppon the ffeast day of Allhallowentyde otherwise called All Sts day in any yeare hereafter or within six dayes next before or after the said ffeast, and at noe other time in the year, in one entyer payment, the iust and full sume of ffower hundred pounds ster. good and lawfull currant money of and in England of good, pure, and vnmixt silver, together with all such rents and arreare of rents that shalbe then att the tyme of the payment of the said mortgadge due and payeable in, out, and vppon the premisses or any pte thereof vnto the said Thomas Copinger, his heirs or assignees, then (and not before) it shall and may be lawfull to and for me the said Diermod McDonoghie oge Carthy, my heires and assignees, into the premisses to reenter, and the same and every part and parcell thereof with the appurtennes to haue, hold, enjoy, and possess as in my former estate any thinge herein contayned, nor the lyuerie of seizen therevppon made to the contrary notwithstanding.  [Usual mortgage covenants.]

Dated the 18th July, 1636.


Witnesses:     C.M. & C. CARTHIE, is mke.

Robt. Coppinger
William Cromens
John Wailfe
Johnanan Owen
James Coppinger.

On the 24th December, 1644, Thomas made a settlement upon his wife, Katherine Gould, of the property comprised in the last deed and two other properties then in mortgage to him.  One of these other properties he held under a mortgage from the same persons as the Carhue property, having been conveyed to him by deed dated the 19th July, 1636, under the description of

"All that and those the Castell, Townes, lands, tenements, and hereditaments of Downine and three halfe plowghlands therevnto belonging and next adioyning, comonly called or knowen by the name or names of Drome Kyt liose Creaghe and Knockallowmurry, whether more or less, scituated, lyeing, and being in the Barronie of Muskry, and in the Countie of Corke aforesaid."

The other of the properties comprised in the Settlement had been mortgaged by a deed dated the 8th July, 1641, by John Gould fitz Richard, of the City of Corke, Merchant, and Michael Gould fitz Thomas, of the same, Merchant, under the description of

"the stonehouse of the said John Gould, in Mill Streete, nowe in tenure and possession of Mr. Dor. Goughe, his assignee or assignees, and the ffward stone howse and tenement of the said Michaell gould next the streete nowe in the occupacon of John Baylye and others, with all the shoppes, cellers, taverns, kitchins, lower roomes, halls, chambers and appurtenances, being within the parrishe of St. Peeters within the Citty of Corke." 

The limitations were to the use of Katherine Coppinger als Gould, wife of the said Thomas Coppinger, for life, with remainder to the heirs male of the body of the said Thomas Coppinger.  In default of such issue to such persons as the said Thomas should by Will appoint and the heirs male of their bodies.  The trustees were John Roche fitz Morris, of the City of Cork, gent., and Adame Coppinger fitz John of the same, gent.

On this deed is an endorsement dated the 8th March, 1675, by Thomas Coppinger, conveying his interest in the two plowlands of Kaherrow or Kahirrowe within mentioned, to his son and heir Stephen Coppinger, he paying to his father out of the rents and profits the sum of ten pounds per annum.  This son, Stephen, who is described as of "Maccrompe, in the Barrony of Muskrie, and the County of Cork, gent.," made a settlement on his wife by deed dated the 26th May, 1676, of the property comprised in the above endorsed deed, and which was in fact the property in mortgage from Dermod McDonogh oge Carthie by the deed of the 18th July, 1636.  In this settlement Stephen's wife is called "Katherin Heas."

Minutes of the Court of Claim.

Case of Thomas Coppinger before the Court

of claims, 18 August, 1663.

Minutes of the Commissioners.

 Witness J.-- The Pltf lived in Cork.


Contra quœrentins.

Thos. Coppinger's hand subscribed to a return made of Burgesses, &c.  [the Confederate Assembly], Kilkenny, 25 August, 1648.

John Mac Shane. - The Pltf lived in the Cahoa, which was an Irish garrison at the latter end of the second year of the war.  He sent a soldier to the Irish army to the Earl of Clancarty.

Edmd. Sainnay. -  One of the soldiers of the Irish told this witness that Thos. Coppinger sent him.  The soldiers told him this on Thursday senight.

Pro Querente.

Sir Robert Coppinger. - The Plaintiff lived in Cork from the beginning of the war till the expulsion in 1644.  He did live in Cahoa, but it was after his expulsion.  The Court are satisfied that it is his hand to the subscription.  But being McGauley's case and some others which we have referred to, the Council [Board] upon the question of the acting between the peace of 1646 and the peace of 1648.  Judgement suspended.

The Lord Lieutenant and Council on the 20th August, 1663, declared that the subscription is proved, and the voting for a member for the confederate assembly in this particular period did not bar a claim to innocence.

Friday, 21 Augt, 1663.

The Court adjudged Thomas Coppinger Innocent pursuant to the  Directions of the Lord Lieut. and Council to whom we had referred it, uppon the case of voting after the first and before the second peace.[1]

[1] Carte Papers, vol. 67.  Thomas Copinger's claim was as an "innocent Papist."  It was exhibited 4th November, 14 Char. II., and set forth that the claimant on the 22nd October, 1641, and before and after, was seised in fee or of other estate of inheritance of and in the castle, town, and lands of Crogh, containing three plowlands, viz., the plowland of the Island of Crogh, and the two plowlands of Curraghdunnden, Ballymollowes, and Selkassy, in the Barony of Fermoy and County of Cork, being mortgaged by Morris, Lord Viscount Roch, unto the claimant, his heirs and assigns, for the sum of £1,222 sterling, by his deed dated the 24th October, 1636.  Also of the property comprised in the mortgage above set forth of the 18th July, 1636, then in the possession of William Meade, and the property comprised in the above mentioned mortgage of the 8th July, 1641, but which seems to be referred to as dated the 18th October, 1641, and two other houses, in the whole 1,236A. 1R. 36P, and that claimant continued seised until he was ousted thereof by the late usurping power.

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